The Sanctity of Science and its Limitations

“Science should be the final arbiter on all these issues.”

Response: I appreciate your respect for science, as it has yielded tremendous insight and progress for all of us.  And yet, if we look deeper into science, we can discover what it can and cannot do.

Key Point #1:  Science is driven by paradigms – world views that explain the world. 

One of my favorite books is “The Structure of Scientific Revolutions” by MIT Professor Thomas Kuhn, written over 50 years ago.  Kuhn made a compelling case for paradigms – a world view or way of looking at things.  So political philosophies, religions, etc. are all paradigms.  Kuhn contended that we don’t see the world as it is, but as we are – through our lens, which focuses on some information (that which reinforces our paradigm), and ignores information that does not.  For example, an environmentalist, a business person, a labor organizer, and an engineer would all see a manufacturing plant in totally different ways, through their respective paradigms. 

Kuhn attacks the notion that scientific knowledge accumulates like money in a bank account, and makes a compelling case that scientists (and everyone else) see the world through a lens, a paradigm.  As time goes on, facts will emerge that don’t fit our paradigm.  We can just ignore these anomalies, but true scientists would hold on to them, and if at some point the pile of anomalies overwhelms the current paradigm, the scientist would examine all of the evidence, and change paradigms to a paradigm that more effectively explains reality.

At one point in our history, scientists believed that the earth was flat.  This flat earth paradigm was commonly held until more and more evidence accumulated that the earth was in fact round.  So the paradigm shifted.  At another point in our history, doctors believed that bleeding a person through leeches or cuts was a valid medical treatment.  In all likelihood, this “best practice medical procedure” contributed to the death of our first president, George Washington.  Over time, researchers discovered that this practice was harmful, and the paradigm shifted.

Key Point #2:  What gets funded gets studied – the influence of vested interests and funding on establishing paradigms.

These paradigms (and their funding sources) directly impact the assumptions, methodologies, and conclusions of scientific studies.  Furthermore, what is published in scientific journals is what scientists investigate.  So a scientific study, funded by a multi-national pharmaceutical firm shows that some new drug reduces the chances of getting cancer.  But the study does not reveal that a natural plant remedy has the same effect.

Our federal government has made tremendous funding available for studies of global warming.  If you as a scientist believe that global warming is not caused by our current industrial era, you will not receive any funding for your research, and you may end up teaching high school science classes, or perhaps delivering pizza.

Key Point #3:  Resistance to changing paradigms in science can emerge because of religious reasons. 

The predominant paradigm in science today is the theory of evolution – the belief that our world started with nothing, or something that exploded and eventually became more and more complex, yielding the world as we see it today, with plants, animals, and people.  There are more than 10,000 scientists in our nation that embrace creation science, and there is substantive evidence that exposes the fallacies of evolution.  And yet there is tremendous resistance to creation science because it implies there is a God.  To those who reject God, they will hold to evolution, or the notion that life came here from another planet.

At the same time, an Intelligent Design movement has emerged within the community of evolutionary scientists who have concluded that the complexity of nature could not have happened by chance, thus denying the validity of Darwinian evolution and contending that nature reveals design by some intelligence.

Key Point #4:  If something looks crazy to you, it is because you don’t grasp the underlying paradigm.

A common reaction to unusual behavior is to describe it as crazy:  “Oh, he is just crazy!”  But what it really means is that you don’t understand the underlying paradigm that is driving that behavior.  This can be very helpful, and it starts with the assumption (usually true) that there is an underlying paradigm, and it requires an inquisitiveness to discover what that paradigm is.  Ask “Within what paradigm would this make perfect sense?”

For example, President Obama recently gave a speech before the United Nations and stated that the future belongs to those nations that respect the prophet (Mohammad).  Your question for the day is this – within what paradigm would this make perfect sense?

Key Point #5:  Ultimately, science cannot tell us what we should do.

Although science has obvious limitations, it does shed light on many facets of our lives, and has opened up many new opportunities for our nation and the world.  There is one more limitation that is often overlooked, that science cannot tell us what we should do.  Science only tells us what is; it cannot tell us what should be.  That is our province as thinking, feeling, spiritual human beings.

  • Science and technology can show us how to build an atomic bomb; it does not tell us if we should build them or if we should use them.
  • Science and technology can show us how to do extraordinary medical procedures, some of which are extremely expensive.  Science does not tell us if they should be used, and for whom – the very wealthy?  Those with political connections?  Only those under 50 years of age?  First come, first serve?
  • Science and technology can prolong life via machines for a very long time, but it cannot tell us if we should do so.
  • Science and technology can now splice human genes into animals and vice versa; it does not tell us if we should.
  • Science and technology can record and scan all voice, text, fax, and e-mail communication across the world; it does not tell us if we should, and for what purpose.
  • Science and technology now has the means to implant a chip into our forearm that is a smart chip, able to be used as a credit card for buying and selling.  But it does not tell us if we should.

Key Point #6:  Science operates solely in the natural world, so it has no capability or authority in the supernatural world.

The Christian perspective is that we live in two overlapping worlds – the physical, material world, and the spiritual world.  When Jesus appeared on the scene two thousand years ago, He announced that the Kingdom of Heaven is here.  Empirical science is based on the ability to observe, to measure, and to manipulate things in the natural world.  Similar to trying to measure temperature with a ruler, science is incapable of understanding or studying the supernatural world.  Atheistic scientists may contend that there is no god, but they are on thin ice because nothing within science can prove that their assertion is true.

The Bible is a record of the sovereign, living God creating and intervening from the spiritual realm into the material universe over time.  It is a special revelation of truth as revealed to us from God.  Many early scientists believed that science was merely a new way to learn about the world as God created it.

The Sanctity of Life and Its Enemies


Great to see you here in Little Rock recently.  We were relieved to hear that you made it home.  I want to share some perspectives with you, but first want to let you know that nothing you do, say, or believe (or who you vote for) alters my love for you.  Really!  That should be freeing to you. 

In this missive, I want to focus on one issue – human life.  This is an attempt to describe a pro-life perspective and apply that perspective to what is going on in the U.S. and the world.  This is a 5 year or perhaps a 10 year letter.  You may dismiss it now, but five or ten years from now you may have an experience that connects with some element of this letter.

As you know, the Biblical perspective on human life is that we were created in the image of God; although He is a Spirit, we are like Him.  We look like Him, we have a spirit that can connect with Him, as well as emotions, will, and reason, which He also has.  We are not merely animals but are a special creation. This sanctity of life perspective shaped the foundation of our nation, and is in contrast to the cultures and political systems from which our forefathers and foremothers came. 

Furthermore, God is not a respecter of persons, and we – both men and women – are all equal under the law of God. Under kings, the king and his cohorts are elite rulers who make all of the decisions; the people have little or no voice.  The same is often true for sultans, czars, emperors, pharaohs, and chiefs.  Many of these considered themselves to be gods, and some practiced human sacrifice.

So the rule of law, in which everyone is equal under the law, was a departure from historical precedents.  One of the first to embrace this was when God gave Moses the Ten Commandments.  Even Moses was treated as equal to other people by God, and was not allowed to enter the Promised Land because of his transgression.  In most of the elitist systems, human life was cheap and expendable for the cause of the regime in power.  In direct contrast, early Christians rescued abandoned babies off the trash heaps in ancient Rome because they believed in the sanctity of human life.

I would add that our nation’s history and treatment of Native Americans and African Americans has been a dark stain on our nation’s history, for which there is no excuse.  Our Declaration of Independence laid out the basic premise that all men are created equal, but it has taken years and at least one war before that ideal has started to become more fully realized. 

Although our nation is still a work in progress, the existence of slavery, persecutions, and lack of basic freedoms and economic opportunity in many other countries today may account for the continued flow of people into our nation from other nations.

Modern attacks on the sanctity of human life and the notion that we were created in the image of God come from:

  • Charles Darwin, who favored evolution (really macro-evaluation from one species to another) as the best explanation of origins, leading to the perspective that we are merely animals, albeit smart animals.  If we are merely animals, then there is no creator with a purpose for our lives, and we can make up our own rules.  This is taught in most public schools and universities as “scientific”, ignoring the substantial body of knowledge in creation science that confirms the Biblical world view.  The Intelligent Design Movement consists of a group of evolutionary scientists, some of them quite prominent, who have concluded that the data, and the intricate nature of nature forces them to conclude that nature (like Mount Rushmore) did not happen by chance, but by design from some kind of intelligence. 
  • Radical environmentalists embrace evolution and are more concerned for the future of the earth and its ecosystem than people.  This leads to laws that protect endangered species (such as the spotted owl) at the expense of the jobs and livelihoods of thousands of people in Oregon, Washington, and other states.
  • The New World Order, espoused by every U.S. president since George H. Bush, is a movement toward a one world government, one world economy, one world financial system, and one world religion.  New World Order advocates are globalist elitists – leaders of multi-national corporations, foundations, banks, and governments, who see population reduction as an essential part of their agenda.  The New World Order people are ruthless criminals who start wars and have absolutely no regard for human life.
  • Hitler also embraced evolution, and sought to eliminate those people who he did not view as highly as the Aryan race (Jews, gypsies, handicapped, etc.), as well as individuals who opposed his regime (Christians, priests, traditional German patriots, etc.)
  • Karl Marx and Frederich Engels founded Marxism, a materialistic, totalitarian system which advocates replacing God with the state (federal government), and destroying or co-opting all intermediary associations between the individual and the state, including families, the church, businesses, and voluntary organizations.  (This is exactly the agenda described by the Communist Party USA, when they met in the 1960s). 

Based on the faulty presupposition that we are by nature good, Marx contended that as capitalism is replaced by socialism (government control of the means of production), which then evolves to communism (government control of the entire society), there will be no crime because everyone’s needs will be met, and the state will “wither away”.  The reality is that communist states become repressive, totalitarian states ruled by ruthless thugs, with a track record of murdering tens of millions of their own people, even during peace time. 

That is why millions of people have fled those countries to come to the U.S., while a much smaller number of Marxist idealists have chosen to move there.  These totalitarian societies eliminate freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to bear arms, and freedom to own private property.  (It is alarming that these freedoms are now under assault in this country and in the world.)  It is not uncommon among Marxists (even in this country) to discuss the need for millions of people to die (particularly those opposed to their regime), which they see as a necessary evil if the “dictatorship of the capitalists” is to be replaced by the “dictatorship of the proletariat” i.e. the working people.

Although they have the same goal – a totalitarian communistic state, there are two camps within Marxism – those who advocate violent overthrow of existing capitalist systems, and those who favor the gradual takeover of a society’s institutions from within.  Antonio Gramsci, an Italian Marxist count, advocated the latter.  One of his ardent students was Saul Alinsky, the infamous community organizer from Chicago, who wrote “Rules for Radicals” and dedicated it to “the first rebel, Lucifer”.  Alinsky has a famous pupil in very high political office, Barack Hussein Obama.  As you may know, I was a Marxist for a time, studied Marx and Alinsky in grad school, and have visited five communist countries.  I also presented a paper on Marxism at a national conference.  A close friend lost her position in the University of California – Davis History Department when the Marxists took over and she would not toe the party line.

  • Hinduism has a system of castes that people are born into and from which there is no escape (without leaving that system).  Unlike Christianity, with its admonition to feed the poor, the Hindu perspective is that if you help someone in dire poverty, you will interfere with his/her karma, in which he must suffer in this life for wrong-doing in his previous life, in order to be reincarnated at a higher station of life in the next life.  New Agers basically embrace Hinduism, its reincarnation, and pantheism.
  • Islam is a special case.  We can learn a lot by studying the founder of a religion.  While Jesus treated women with respect and taught his followers to love their enemies, Mohammad personally led multiple raids on passing caravans for booty, women, and slaves.  Observing the gradual increase in Muslims in a Western nations, the pattern that is emerging is that rather than assimilate within the culture, Muslims increase their demands for sharia law, with its barbaric treatment of criminals and women.  A few other clues:
    • Within Islam, the only sure way you know you are going to Paradise when you die is when you die in Jihad – holy war.  Perhaps that is why a Palestinian mother exclaimed a few years ago that the happiest day of our life was when her son blew himself up as a suicide bomber in Israel.  Amazing – this describes a culture of death!
    • During the Iran-Iraq war, a war between two Muslim nations, Iran sent out thousands of its teenagers to clear the minefields prior to a military battle.  They became human fodder in this tragic war.
    • Honor killings takes place in the Middle East and this country when a family member, usually the father, kills another member of the family who has shamed the family.  If a young woman is raped, she is killed by her father because she has shamed her family.  Meanwhile, the rapist faces far lesser charges.  Unbelievable.  So the family’s “honor” is more important than human life.
    • In similar fashion, an Egyptian professor at Cairo University converted to Christianity and had to flee because his father was about to kill him to restore honor to the family.
  • Abortion – with the perspective that human life is just a blob of tissue, abortionists have killed an estimated 70 million babies in the U.S. since Roe vs. Wade in 1973.  The tide turned somewhat when “Silent Scream” came out – a video that shows the pain that an unborn child experiences during an abortion.  Under President Obama, our government pressures other nations to embrace abortion.  I heard an interview with a pastor from Kenya, in which he described how the U.S. government pressured Kenya to change its constitution to accept abortion.  President Obama has also sought to force Christian health organizations (Catholic hospitals, etc.) to provide abortion services, in direct conflict with their fundamental beliefs.  Worldwide, approximately a billion babies have been killed since 1973, for which our nation bears some responsibility.  The blood of these murdered babies cries out from the ground against our nation and our government.

Abortion leads to bizarre things happening.  I recently read that 400-500 babies every year are alive due to botched abortions.  I saw a video clip of one of these individuals, in which she told her story of how her mother and abortion “doctor” tried to kill her, but she survived.  Now that is a dysfunctional family!

In contrast, the Word of God states: 

“Where can I go from Your Spirit?  Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend into heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there.  If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there Your hand shall lead me, And Your right hand shall hold me…  for You formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother’s womb.  

I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;marvelous are Your works, that my soul knows very well.  My frame was not hidden from You, when I was made in secret, and skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.  Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.  And in Your book they all were written, the days fashioned for me, when as yet there were none of them.”      Psalm 139:7-16

Unlike materialistic/communistic systems, in which people have no transcendent or special purpose other than utility, or systems that embrace evolution in which we are just animals, the Biblical world view describes a world in which we were created by God teleologically – with a purpose. 

Just as nature is a product of design (as opposed to evolutionary chance), so was human life was designed with a purpose.  We – you and I, were created by God with a purpose, and that purpose is to draw close to Him on earth, to reflect His love and truth to all people, and to enjoy His presence here on earth and in heaven when we die.  But He won’t force anyone to be there who does not want to be in the presence of God.

God invites us to into a relationship (not just a belief) with Him, in which we fellowship and can be led by the Holy Spirit of the sovereign, living God.  And this is truly amazing.

Many people’s experience with Christianity has not been positive.  Perhaps they encountered a dead church or Christians who did not walk the walk, or were stuck in stifling social roles.  Or perhaps they were just seeking a social organization, and became tired of hearing about Jesus, sin and guilt.  (False guilt comes from man and is often manipulative; true guilt comes from the Lord and is redemptive.)

Most people don’t like to be called sinners – it is like telling someone they are a bad person.  I find it more useful (and Biblically accurate) to note that teleologically, sin is merely missing its mark, like a car that runs off the road and hits a tree.  Cars were not designed to hit trees; they are designed to drive down the road.  In like manner, we were not created to crash off the road; we were created with the capacity and desire to know the Lord.  This is expressed in the following – the Greatest Danger.

The Greatest Danger

The greatest danger facing all of us is not that we shall make an absolute failure of life, nor that we shall fall into outright viciousness, nor that we shall be terribly unhappy, nor that we shall feel that life has no meaning at all – not these things.

The danger is that we may:

  • fail to perceive life’s greatest meaning,
  • fall short of its highest good,
  • miss its deepest and most abiding happiness,
  • be unable to tender the most needed service,
  • be unconscious of life ablaze with the light of the Presence of God,
  • and be content to have it so.

That is the danger – that some day we may wake up and find that always we have been busy with husks and trappings of life and have really missed life itself.

For life without god, to one who has known the richness and joy of life with Him, is unthinkable, impossible.  That is what one prays one’s friends may be spared – satisfaction with a life that falls short of the best, that has no tingle or thrill that comes from a friendship with the Father.                                                           Phillip Brooks (1835-1893) 

Nine Clues to Christianity

Great to see you again.  I now recall the point I was going to make in discussing airline pilots and Secret Service personnel.  They are the two professions that are experts at anticipating the future (because the stakes are so high for them).  And they do it by looking for clues that tell them about the future that is emerging before their very eyes. 

With a multitude of world views, philosophies, and religions competing for our attention, looking for clues can be very helpful in discerning the truth about life here on earth and whatever happens to us after we die.  The multitude of religions make competing claims, so they cannot all be true.  I have found the following clues to be most helpful in my spiritual journey.   .

Clue #1:  There are over 150 flood stories in different cultures, most of them describing a family that survived the flood in a boat. 

Clue #2:  The Chinese language is made of pictographs, and the Chinese word for boat is a ship with 8 people in it (Noah and his family were 8 people).

Clue #3:  The Chinese word for flood is a picture of water covering the entire earth.

Clue #4:  The Chinese word for forbidden shows two trees, and “God commands” underneath the tree (similar to the two trees in the Garden of Eden).

Clue #5:  A cardiologist named Dr. Maurice Rawlings received a lot of patients who were in really bad shape.  It was not uncommon that patients would die in his presence.  Because of new medical treatments, he was able to bring many of them back to life.  He was astonished to discover that about half of them didn’t want to come back because they were having some great experience, and the other half came back to life screaming that they didn’t want to die again because they were in hell.

Clue #6:  Within evolutionary science circles, a new movement is emerging – the Intelligent Design Movement.  It is a group of evolutionary scientists, some prominent, who have concluded that their scientific research reveals evidence of intelligence, that that we could not have evolved as described by Darwin.  So they reject the evolutionist perspective that we are merely animals who evolved from non-life, and have no purpose in life.

Clue #7:  In the book “The Math of Christ”, Stephen Bauer describes 40 different Old Testament prophecies that have been fulfilled, and then calculates that the chances that these happened by chance to be one chance in 10 to the 137th power.  To get some sense of the magnitude of these odds, if you covered the earth with silver dollars, one of which is painted red, and told your friend George, who is blind, to pick up the red one, the chances of George picking up the red one would be one chance in 10 to the 17th power.

Clue #8:  The Bible, written by 40 authors with widely differing occupations from 3 continents over 1,500 years, tells an integrated story that is woven together in a progressive story of human life, with God’s involvement over the centuries, including dozens of prophecies that are fulfilled.  This unity is evidence of a common author (the Holy Spirit), who inspired and guided the writing of the books of the Bible, in contrast to other religions.

Clue #9:  Christ’s apostles, largely uneducated men, were fearful cowards as they watched Christ’s arrest, torture, and crucifixion.  And yet after they met the victorious Christ who had risen from the grave and overcame death itself, they became bold, powerful preachers of the Gospel that took on the Jewish establishment and the Roman Empire, spreading the good news of Christianity to the far reaches of the world, in spite of the suffering and death facing them on a regular basis.

When we follow the clues, they lead to the Lord.

“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.  For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.”                                                          Matthew 7:7-8

Best regards,

Let’s Hear it for Humanism

“Naturalism or secular humanism is superior to Christianity as a belief system because it is less hypocritical, has greater faith, is more challenging, and is more daring”.


I agree that Christianity has the greatest hypocrisy, or at least the greatest potential for hypocrisy, compared to humanism. The standards set by the Lord for Christians are very high.  We are called upon to love our enemies, to go the extra mile when called upon to go a mile (as you may know, this refers to the Roman soldiers commanding citizens to carry their heavy packs a mile), to feed the poor, and be willing to die for our Lord and for our spouses.  We are also called upon to love the Lord with all of our heart, mind, soul, and strength.  How many Christians really love their enemies?  If Christians are really willing to die for their wives, why isn’t the divorce rate among Christians much less than that of non-Christians?  (It is not).  So the gap between the standard of behavior set by the Lord for Christians and those who profess to be Christians is large, at least in the U.S.

On the other hand, it seems that the standards of behavior set by naturalists would be more modest, perhaps even low.  Secular humanists talk about fulfilling their potential, which seems like it would be easier to do – even a natural process.  If there is no external standard – no standard set by an external entity, then we are free to set our own standards.  Furthermore, what is a standard of behavior for one person need not be accepted by another.  A consensus on how to live by some group does not hold sway over another group or individual.  And there are many groups – which one should we choose?  So if I am to develop a set of standards for my life – my moral code, I will likely set it low enough to be reached in my lifetime.  Hence less hypocrisy.

I might add that the standard set by the Lord for Christians can only be achieved through supernatural means, as the righteousness of Christ is imputed to His followers.  To carry this a step further, the Lord can work through us to do things that defy natural reason and transcend typical norms. 

Second, naturalism/humanism is a religion of greater faith than Christianity.  This is using the definition of religions as systems of ultimate beliefs.  (The U.S. Supreme Court declared some years ago that secular humanism is a religion.)  I agree – it takes more faith to believe that the incredible complexity and design of the universe, which is even more complex than a Boeing 747, came about by pure chance, than from some intelligence.

The Intelligent Design movement within the evolution community is problematic for evolutionary scientists, with prominent evolutionary scientists embracing intelligent design because the data drives them to it, and that nature, like Mount Rushmore, reveals evidence of intelligence, and intelligent design. 

Third, the most daring persons are naturalists – humanists.  I always think of Christopher Columbus, or Lewis and Clark as daring explorers, because they traveled to unknown lands with limited supplies and imperfect maps.  The most they could lose were their lives on this earth.  However, the journey beyond the grave is the ultimate journey.

Naturalists facing death with no certainty of what lies ahead, other than perhaps through speculative philosophy, are truly acts of daring.  And if naturalists are wrong, they will experience an eternal life of suffering, which I would wish on no person. Christianity not only describes the next life and the different destinations in the next life; it also describes how to get to heaven.  This is confirmed by fulfilled prophecies and 12 disciples who were transformed from cowards to bold witnesses for the Lord, all of whom except one was killed for his faith.

One clue about life after death comes from Maurice Rawlings (, a cardiologist who has brought many people back from death.  He discovered that about half of them experienced a light with great joy, and half were absolutely terrified, as they experienced hell.  Did they make this up?  How can a person make something up when he/she is clinically dead? 

Fourth, naturalism / humanism is the most challenging.

Richard Dawkins, a famous evolutionary scientist, stated:

“Nature is not cruel, pitiless. This is one of the hardest lessons for humans to learn.  We cannot admit that things might be neither good nor evil, neither cruel nor kind, but simply callous – indifferent to all suffering, lacking all purpose.” 

So the challenge is – if one’s world view does not allow for purpose – if we came about by the survival of the fittest, why live?  Why are we here?  If we are smarter and/or meaner than all the rest of the animals, so what?  We will just live a little longer perhaps – a life of emptiness.  What can you tell a friend who is considering suicide if we, like a pebble or rock, have no purpose in our lives?

If we are just animals, seeking to survive, what can we tell a mugger who wants to take our money and bump us off?  Who are we to say what he is doing is wrong?  Is he not just fulfilling Darwin’s mandate – to survive? 

Nations with no transcendent purpose ultimately embrace an ideology that favors the ruling class, usually based on utilitarianism:

“We keep you alive to serve this ship.  Row well and live.”

Roman Commander of a slave galley ship in the movie Ben Hur

Other than scapegoats (Hitler’s attack on the Jews), it means that the productive are kept, and the crippled and elderly are expendable.  If human life, like animals, has no purpose other than material production, us older folks are in trouble, as are the sick and handicapped.

In contrast, the Christian world view describes our creation by a sovereign, living God to carry out His work in the world. We are not merely animals but special creations, created in the image of God.  Discovering His will for our lives is the first task, but the second is perhaps more difficult – yielding to His will and being obedient to His call on our lives.

“For I know he thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.”                                                                                                                   Jeremiah 29:11

Attack on Religion and Christianity

More humans have been killed in the name of God and brutalized by religious despots than all the wars fought over land, resources and money. This makes me question the belief systems of the world.”


The total number of people killed by genocide is 170 million, of which 110 million (over 2/3) were from communist (atheist) governments.  The Soviet Union was responsible for 61 million, of which Stalin alone was responsible for 43 million deaths.  Hitler was responsible for 12 million.  Numbers vary from one website to another, and these are estimates, but the numbers are very revealing.  This is not to minimize the number of deaths caused in the name of God, which has been substantial. 

If we look closely at religious wars and conflicts involving Christianity, such as the crusades and inquisition, we discover that most of them were sponsored by the Roman Catholic Church and the popes at that time. These periods of violence within Christianity (the crusades, inquisition, etc.) represent behavior conducted by a worldly, legalistic, and/or fleshly “church” in direct disobedience to the message from the New Testament, which is to love our enemy. 

Thus the distinction between the remnant – the true, Spirit-led living body of Christ and the large, political/religious systems that uses Christian terminology and claims authority from Christ for their own purposes is absolutely critical.  Jesus said that His kingdom is not of this world, yet the Roman Catholic Church considers itself a political as well as religious entity, and sends out ambassadors, owns hospitals, seminaries, universities, commercial property, and consorts with world leaders.

But perhaps a more intriguing point is that various tyrants that have absolutely no regard for human life have recognized the power of religion (man’s yearning for the transcendent) in human beings, and have used that power for their own ends.  That’s one of the reasons they have been so effective in perpetuating their evil schemes – they tap into deep human needs and desires, albeit for their own ends.  So I would totally agree with you that we should question the belief systems of the world, and that religions, religious leaders, and political leaders have often taken advantage of their believers / followers, and should be seriously questioned.

In contrast to religion (man trying to reach God, or create god in his own image), Christianity offers a relationship with the sovereign, living God of the universe.  God created us in His image, with the capacity and desire to know Him, and to enjoy a personal relationship with Him (not just a belief system or ideology) that bears spiritual fruit – peace, joy, and love.

“It just doesn’t make sense that if God is omnipotent and benevolent he would permit such things to happen to his children.”


You raise a great question, which leads to another question:  given a choice, in which of the following scenarios would you prefer to live:

  1. Our present environment, with all of its crime, suffering, brutalization, unspeakable horrors, wars, innocent people being slaughtered, starved, and tortured for a variety of reasons; but also an environment in which we see great acts of heroism, of love, of sacrifice, of courage, of passion, and virtue by people great and small, or
  2. An environment in which nothing ever bad happens; there is no choice between good or evil, so there is no virtue or heroism.  This would likely be a very pleasant society in which all needs are met, but its pleasantness is accompanied with a profound blandness, like a person who takes drugs that eliminates the peaks and valleys of his/her life.  The quote (not exact): “It is not the number of breaths that we take, but the number of times that take our breath away that makes life worthwhile” would not apply to this scenario, because there would be few, if any breaths that take our breath away.

Depending on one’s life experiences, I suspect most people would choose a).  A second perspective might be helpful here, and that is while most of us are most concerned with life on earth, God sees us in the context of eternity.  So the young child who is killed in an automobile accident is likely in heaven now, while Hitler is experiencing the fires of hell.  God sees the big picture, His justice transcends life on this earth, and it is tempered with profound mercy.

“When I got older, I listened to priests, clergy of all kinds and the stories in the bible just do not make rational sense.”


I would agree that many stories in the Bible do not make sense from a rational sense if one’s world view is naturalistic.  We have some friends who are naturalists, who contend that the spirit world is mere superstition. 

In 79 AD, Pompeii, Italy was covered by the volcanic ash and lava from Mount Vesuvius, which erupted for the first time for 1,500 years.  One of the reasons that so many people died was that they had no experience with volcanoes.  They didn’t even have a word for volcano in their language, which was Latin.  The notion that a mountain could explode was foolishness to them.  In like fashion, miracles and fulfilled prophecies are foolishness to naturalists, who have no experience with the spirit world and therefore deny its existence. 

But the Bible goes beyond the natural, and documents interactions between the natural and supernatural.  Miracles, which are by definition an intervention by God, would make no sense from a naturalistic perspective.  It doesn’t mean they didn’t happen, only that the naturalist would a priori deny their existence. 

“A few years back I ran onto a Professor of Religious History at U of NC. He wrote “Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millennium”.  As a teenager he became a born again Christian and swore to get to know everything knowable about Jesus. He exhausted the literature with more than 30,000 documents on the subject, the most ever assembled up till now. He began to cross reference these documents and found between 300,000 – 400,000 discrepancies. He finally came to the conclusion that the Christian description of Jesus was totally fabricated and admitted that Christianity was a fraud. He no longer considers himself a Christian.”


Very interesting.  While I have not read his books, I do have a few comments that may be pertinent here.  There is a tremendous body of evidence that confirms the historical record of the Old Testament and New Testament, including fulfilled prophecies, of which there are dozens.  One of the most common criticisms of the Bible comes from the “higher critics” – those who were on the forefront of the Higher Criticism movement that started in the late 1800s in northern Germany. 

The higher critics claimed to be above the Bible (and therefore were called higher critics).  They analyzed the language of various bible books, and concluded that certain books were not written by the same person (such as Moses), or that different parts of a particular book were written by different authors. 

They overlooked the reality that an author’s writing style usually changes over time, and that authors of books of the Bible may have incorporated elements from other’s writings, as led by the Holy Spirit.  They also looked at prophecies that were fulfilled, and concluded that since we cannot know things in advance, obviously they were written later.  Their presuppositions led to their conclusions.

Another story may be relevant here.  Simon Greenleaf (1783-1853) was the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard and the nation’s expert on rules of evidence.  When the U.S. Supreme Court became stuck on an issue relating to evidence, it was Greenleaf’s work that they turned to.  When he made a disparaging remark about Christianity, his students challenged him by asking him if he had ever examined the evidence concerning Christianity.  He admitted that he had not, but agreed to do so.  After examining every thread of evidence he could regarding the life of Jesus and His supposed resurrection, Greenleaf became a Christian, and wrote a book entitled:  “The Testimony of the Evangelists: The Gospels Examined by the Rules of Evidence”.  His conclusion was that if the evidence for Christ’s resurrection was presented to any unbiased jury in the world, they would have to conclude that Jesus rose from the dead.

So perhaps Dr. Ehrman is operating from a different set of rules of evidence, which may not hold up in a court of law.  I also think it is also common for our quest to be highly influenced by our personal life experiences.  I know of individuals whose loved ones – siblings or spouses – suffer from a debilitating illness, and fervent prayer does not yield the desired result, of complete healing.  They then conclude that God must not exist because if He existed, He would have healed the loved one.  But God is not a puppet on a string, and His existence does not require Him to cater to our wishes.

“Jesus spoke Aramaic which never was a written language and Jesus never could read and everything written about him was written 30 and 50 years after his death. I don’t know about you but my memory of 30 years ago is just a bit hazy. How could the people who wrote the bible have remembered in such detail what Jesus said, did and believed? Jesus had left the holy land as a teenager and returned roughly a year before he was placed on the cross. How could he have uttered such a vast amount of wisdom in a year?

The Christian bible was not assembled until Constantine, 300 AD, having problems between the Christians and pagans dictated that the Christians put together documents that spelled out their beliefs. The result is close to what you see today but with some considerable editing, there were as many books left out as there were published because the assemblers were also editors and chose what went in and what was left out.”


Perhaps you should check your sources.  From Wikipedia: ”The Aramaic alphabet is adapted from the Phoenician alphabet and became distinctive from it by the 8th century BCE. The letters all represent consonants, some of which are matres lectionis, which also indicate long vowels.  The Aramaic alphabet is historically significant, since virtually all modern Middle Eastern writing systems use a script that can be traced back to it, as well as numerous Altaic writing systems of Central and East Asia.

This is primarily due to the widespread usage of the Aramaic language as both a lingua franca and the official language of the Neo-Assyrian, and its successor, the Achaemenid Empire. Among the scripts in modern use, the Hebrew alphabet bears the closest relation to the Imperial Aramaic script of the 5th century BCE, with an identical letter inventory and, for the most part, nearly identical letter shapes.”

Jesus either read from the Hebrew scriptures or quoted them on numerous occasions; Matthew 4 is an example.  When He was 12 years old, he spent hours discussing theological issues with the religious leaders in Jerusalem.  “And all who heard Him were astonished at his understanding and answers,” Luke 2:47.  In Luke 4, “So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up.  And as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read…”  Jesus was often called rabbi, which means teacher, and rabbis commonly visited synagogues, where they would read the Hebrew scriptures.  We see this in Luke 4:16-20.

What is the basis for the notion that Jesus left the Holy Land as a teenager?  How could he have uttered such a vast amount of wisdom in a year?  He didn’t.  His life was attested to by numerous prominent non-Christians, and His ministry took place over three years, not one year.  It is also relevant to remember that we are not talking about some ordinary guy here.  This is Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who was The Way, The Truth, and The Life. 

The orthodox (not Greek Orthodox) biblical perspective is that the Bible was inspired by the Holy Spirit, including the authors and those who selected what should be included in the Bible.  While other books or chapters may have historical value or even spiritual insight, they did not meet the high standard set by those who put together the Bible.  The authenticity of this perspective is evident from the fact that the Bible was written by over 40 authors (many of whom did not know each other) from 3 different continents over a period of 1,500 years.  And yet it has a common theme, an historical timeline and message, and fulfilled prophecies that confirm that there was in fact a single author – the Holy Spirit.  Even with unlimited resources, it would be impossible to pull off this feat by human means alone.

From, we read:
“The New Testament rests on prophetic authority – primarily delivered through the apostles. The apostles were the foundation of church teachings and were hand-picked by Jesus Himself. They were the surest link to Christ and they therefore were the main source of authentication of what should be considered Scripture.

The early church fathers understood the concept of prophetic authority very well. They recognized that the apostles were given authority from Christ and one of the key identifiers of a writing as Scripture was the fact that it either came from an apostle, such as the letters of Paul and the Gospel of John, or it had a close connection with the apostles, such as the works by Luke or Mark.

Basically, if a document couldn’t be identified as having a real connection with the apostles, that book could not be considered scriptural. Milton Fisher, in writing about principles used in determining canonicity by the early church notes that “apostolic authorship or approval became recognized as the only sure standard for identifying God’s revelation. Even within the Scripture record, first-century prophets were subordinate to apostolic authority.

Jesus’ view of the Old Testament was very high – but it was not an uncommon view at that time. So, when the apostle Peter states in his epistle that Paul’s writings are on the same level as the writings of the Old Testament prophets (2 Pet. 3:15-16), he’s making a very bold and serious claim. But Peter did hold Paul’s writings equally with the Old Testament, so sure was he that they were the words of God.

Finally, since the New Testament testifies to the life and ministry of Jesus, we can rely on it as Scripture. As scholar F.F. Bruce notes, “[Jesus] Himself was the Word of God incarnate. The written record of His words must therefore inevitably have authority at least equal to that accorded the Old Testament oracles.” (4) Dr. Bruce also notes that Jesus promised His disciples that they would, after His departure, receive the Holy Spirit and “‘He shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said unto you. … He shall guide you into all the truth…and He shall declare unto you the things that are to come’ (John 14:26;16:13). (5)

Because the Spirit is directly communicating truth through the apostles, the New Testament documents also possess the qualifications of inspiration and prophetic agency. The apostles themselves recognized this, as Paul encouraged the recipients of his letters to circulate them to other churches for learning. The churches would then make copies of these letters to refer to at a later date. Thus, the New Testament was assembled very early – within one hundred years of the documents’ writing.

In fact, all the books of the New Testament were referred to by the church fathers in their writings as authoritative by the mid second century. We have references to various New Testament texts by Polycarp (c AD 150), Justin Martyr (c. AD 140), Irenaeus (c.AD 170), and lists of documents that should be considered Scripture starting with the Muratorian Canon (AD 170).  At Nicea, the New Testament canon had been pretty well established for over a century.”

The Vatican has one of the most extensive libraries of the time of Jesus, probably more than all the rest of the historical writings of the world combined. But you cannot have access to any of it. There are a few who have been permitted access but with the following restrictions. You can take only one scribe, one tablet, no cameras, no recording devices, no phone …. And you are requested to state exactly what you are looking for and which book it comes from and you are accompanied by a Swiss guard who does not leave your side. If the Vatican possesses the “TRUTH” why are they so protective of it?  It would appear that they are protecting something they don’t want the world to know.


I am in complete agreement with you.  Sounds fishy to me too.  See comment about Catholicism above.

“On the other hand science is the only “TRUTH”. I am not talking about the theories offered by science but the proven laws that can be tested by anyone with the skills and if necessary the equipment to do the experiment. This includes but not limited to these great scientists:  Euclid, Archimedes, Hipparchus, Claudius Ptolemy, Many Medieval Arab scientists that held it together during the middle ages, Leonardo da Vinci, Nicolas Copernicus, Andres Vesalius, Galileo Galilei, Christian Huygens, Anton van Leeuwenkoek, Robert Hooke, Sir Isaac Newton, Corolus Linnaeus, James Hutton, Antoine Lavoisier, and John Dalton.”


Few would question the important contribution that science makes to our understanding of the world, how it works, and how we can live in it.  But the assumption that there is a conflict between science and Christianity is ill-founded.  Like emotion and reason, they are different, and each are ways of knowing things that are valuable.  In fact many prominent scientists were Christians, and merely viewed science as another way to understand the world which God created:

  1. Nicholas Copernicus (1473-1543)
    Copernicus was the Polish astronomer who put forward the first mathematically based system of planets going around the sun. He attended various European universities, and became a Canon in the Catholic church in 1497. His new system was actually first presented in the Vatican gardens in 1533 before Pope Clement VII who approved, and urged Copernicus to publish it around this time. Copernicus was never under any threat of religious persecution – and was urged to publish both by Catholic Bishop Guise, Cardinal Schonberg, and the Protestant Professor George Rheticus. Copernicus referred sometimes to God in his works, and did not see his system as in conflict with the Bible.
  2. Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1627)
    Bacon was a philosopher who is known for establishing the scientific method of inquiry based on experimentation and inductive reasoning. In De Interpretatione Naturae Prooemium, Bacon established his goals as being the discovery of truth, service to his country, and service to the church. Although his work was based upon experimentation and reasoning, he rejected atheism as being the result of insufficient depth of philosophy, stating, “It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men’s minds about to religion; for while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the chain of them confederate, and linked together, it must needs fly to Providence and Deity.” (Of Atheism)
  3. Johannes Kepler (1571-1630)
    Kepler was a brilliant mathematician and astronomer. He did early work on light, and established the laws of planetary motion about the sun. He also came close to reaching the Newtonian concept of universal gravity – well before Newton was born! His introduction of the idea of force in astronomy changed it radically in a modern direction. Kepler was an extremely sincere and pious Lutheran, whose works on astronomy contain writings about how space and the heavenly bodies represent the Trinity. Kepler suffered no persecution for his open avowal of the sun-centered system, and, indeed, was allowed as a Protestant to stay in Catholic Graz as a Professor (1595-1600) when other Protestants had been expelled!
  4. Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
    Galileo is often remembered for his conflict with the Roman Catholic Church. His controversial work on the solar system was published in 1633. It had no proofs of a sun-centered system (Galileo’s telescope discoveries did not indicate a moving earth) and his one “proof” based upon the tides was invalid. It ignored the correct elliptical orbits of planets published twenty five years earlier by Kepler. Since his work finished by putting the Pope’s favorite argument in the mouth of the simpleton in the dialogue, the Pope (an old friend of Galileo’s) was very offended. After the “trial” and being forbidden to teach the sun-centered system, Galileo did his most useful theoretical work, which was on dynamics. Galileo expressly said that the Bible cannot err, and saw his system as an alternate interpretation of the biblical texts.
  5. Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
    Descartes was a French mathematician, scientist and philosopher who has been called the father of modern philosophy. His school studies made him dissatisfied with previous philosophy: He had a deep religious faith as a Roman Catholic, which he retained to his dying day, along with a resolute, passionate desire to discover the truth. At the age of 24 he had a dream, and felt the vocational call to seek to bring knowledge together in one system of thought. His system began by asking what could be known if all else were doubted – suggesting the famous “I think therefore I am”. Actually, it is often forgotten that the next step for Descartes was to establish the near certainty of the existence of God – for only if God both exists and would not want us to be deceived by our experiences – can we trust our senses and logical thought processes. God is, therefore, central to his whole philosophy. What he really wanted to see was that his philosophy be adopted as standard Roman Catholic teaching. Rene Descartes and Francis Bacon (1561-1626) are generally regarded as the key figures in the development of scientific methodology. Both had systems in which God was important, and both seem more devout than the average for their era.
  6. Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
    In optics, mechanics, and mathematics, Newton was a figure of undisputed genius and innovation. In all his science (including chemistry) he saw mathematics and numbers as central. What is less well known is that he was devoutly religious and saw numbers as involved in understanding God’s plan for history from the Bible. He did a considerable work on biblical numerology, and, though aspects of his beliefs were not orthodox, he thought theology was very important. In his system of physics, God is essential to the nature and absoluteness of space. In Principia he stated, “The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion on an intelligent and powerful Being.”
  7. Robert Boyle (1791-1867)
    One of the founders and key early members of the Royal Society, Boyle gave his name to “Boyle’s Law” for gases, and also wrote an important work on chemistry. Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: “By his will he endowed a series of Boyle lectures, or sermons, which still continue, ‘for proving the Christian religion against notorious infidels…’ As a devout Protestant, Boyle took a special interest in promoting the Christian religion abroad, giving money to translate and publish the New Testament into Irish and Turkish. In 1690 he developed his theological views in The Christian Virtuoso, which he wrote to show that the study of nature was a central religious duty.” Boyle wrote against atheists in his day (the notion that atheism is a modern invention is a myth), and was clearly much more devoutly Christian than the average in his era.
  8. Michael Faraday (1791-1867)
    Michael Faraday was the son of a blacksmith who became one of the greatest scientists of the 19th century. His work on electricity and magnetism not only revolutionized physics, but led to much of our lifestyles today, which depends on them (including computers and telephone lines and, so, web sites). Faraday was a devoutly Christian member of the Sandemanians, which significantly influenced him and strongly affected the way in which he approached and interpreted nature. Originating from Presbyterians, the Sandemanians rejected the idea of state churches, and tried to go back to a New Testament type of Christianity.
  9. Gregor Mendel (1822-1884)
    Mendel was the first to lay the mathematical foundations of genetics, in what came to be called “Mendelianism”. He began his research in 1856 (three years before Darwin published his Origin of Species) in the garden of the Monastery in which he was a monk. Mendel was elected Abbot of his Monastery in 1868. His work remained comparatively unknown until the turn of the century, when a new generation of botanists began finding similar results and “rediscovered” him (though their ideas were not identical to his). An interesting point is that the 1860’s was notable for formation of the X-Club, which was dedicated to lessening religious influences and propagating an image of “conflict” between science and religion. One sympathizer was Darwin’s cousin Francis Galton, whose scientific interest was in genetics (a proponent of eugenics – selective breeding among humans to “improve” the stock). He was writing how the “priestly mind” was not conducive to science while, at around the same time, an Austrian monk was making the breakthrough in genetics. The rediscovery of the work of Mendel came too late to affect Galton’s contribution.
  10. William Thomson Kelvin (1824-1907)
    Kelvin was foremost among the small group of British scientists who helped to lay the foundations of modern physics. His work covered many areas of physics, and he was said to have more letters after his name than anyone else in the Commonwealth, since he received numerous honorary degrees from European Universities, which recognized the value of his work. He was a very committed Christian, who was certainly more religious than the average for his era. Interestingly, his fellow physicists George Gabriel Stokes (1819-1903) and James Clerk Maxwell (1831-1879) were also men of deep Christian commitment, in an era when many were nominal, apathetic, or anti-Christian. The Encyclopedia Britannica says “Maxwell is regarded by most modern physicists as the scientist of the 19th century who had the greatest influence on 20th century physics; he is ranked with Sir Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein for the fundamental nature of his contributions.” Lord Kelvin was an Old Earth creationist, who estimated the Earth’s age to be somewhere between 20 million and 100 million years, with an upper limit at 500 million years based on cooling rates (a low estimate due to his lack of knowledge about radiogenic heating).
  11. Max Planck (1858-1947)
    Planck made many contributions to physics, but is best known for quantum theory, which revolutionized our understanding of the atomic and sub-atomic worlds. In his 1937 lecture “Religion and Naturwissenschaft,” Planck expressed the view that God is everywhere present, and held that “the holiness of the unintelligible Godhead is conveyed by the holiness of symbols.” Atheists, he thought, attach too much importance to what are merely symbols. Planck was a churchwarden from 1920 until his death, and believed in an almighty, all-knowing, beneficent God (though not necessarily a personal one). Both science and religion wage a “tireless battle against skepticism and dogmatism, against unbelief and superstition” with the goal “toward God!”
  12. Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
    Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: “Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in “Spinoza’s God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists.” This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: “I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details.” Einstein’s famous epithet on the “uncertainty principle” was “God does not play dice” – and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”                          Source:

I don’t want to bore you with more but the truth is that the work of these men [the list mentioned earlier, starting with Euclid] is beyond question as to its validity and its “Truth” because the experiments our math is repeatable by anyone with the knowledge and skill to conduct it.  There is not a religion on earth that can claim such “Truth”.  Everywhere you turn you will find discrepancies and disputes of what is written in religious literature.

Religion is a divergent ideology that over time expands in its literature and creates more sects that fight with the older beliefs. On the other hand science is a convergent ideology. It begins with observing, concluding, theorizing, and then experiments are performed to validate or reject the theory. Other experiments are conducted and finally the theory is replaced by a LAW or thrown out. Once this PROOF is established it becomes another cornerstone on which we can guarantee it will work as consistently as the sun rise or the tides. And I would say that it will continue to be so long after the earth and tides no longer exist.

Truth is hard to find but science has found an approach that will and does provide us with the “TRUTH” that we all bet our lives, our fortunes and our future on almost every day.  I don’t think many would bet their lives on what they read in religious literature and put their lives on the line for what they believe in the way they take what science has found to be the truth and trust their lives to it.”

COMMENT:  Excellent description of the naturalistic, scientific perspective.  Let’s take this one concept at a time.

Concept #1:  Objective truth – truth/knowledge that exists regardless of our awareness of it.  Science is based on the premise that you can know things that are really true, even though a particular experiment will likely only yield a tidbit of that truth.  Christianity also is based on the same premise, and goes further to claim that Christ is “the way, the truth, and the light”.  Sounds like we both accept the notion that objective truth exists.  By the way, those who assert that objective truth does not exist are asserting (as objectively true) that it does not exist, thus refuting themselves.

Truth is hard to find but science has found an approach that will and does provide us with the “TRUTH” that we all bet our lives, our fortunes and our future  on almost every day.  

Concept #2:  Limitations of science:  Granted that science has been very beneficial to mankind, it also poses questions regarding its limitations:

  • Science can tell us how to build an atomic bomb, but does it tell us when it should be used?
  • Science can tell us how to clone people, or even introduce animal genes into humans to make us stronger or faster.  Does science tell us whether we should do this and under what circumstances?

As indicated by these questions, science can tell us what is and what is possible, but it is incapable of telling us what should be and what we should do.  That is the realm of wisdom, and of the moral/spiritual arena.

On the other hand, the predominant world view of scientists today is evolution, the notion that we evolved from inert matter by blind chance, starting with the Big Bang.  Evolutionists commonly portray man as merely smart animals, with the survival of the fittest as the determiner of who will survive in Darwinian evolution.  This raises some important questions:

  • If we are merely animals, then, by the rules of Darwinian evolution, there is nothing beyond the material universe, and survival is the ultimate in life.   But does that lead to a fulfilled life? 
  • Is that all there is? 
  • Is that all we can say at the end of our lives, that we survived? 
  • Is there really nothing worth dying for? 
  • Does survival – physical existence – provide meaning and significance? 
  • Are those mere whims that have validity only insofar as they help with survival?

Applying science to the naturalistic/materialistic world view is what Karl Marx did, and he called it “scientific materialism”.  Because there is nothing beyond the material world, and science really gives no guidance as to what man should do, Marxist tyrants fhave murdered everyone who stood in the way of their utopian dream, one in which everyone would become virtuous because their (material) needs would be taken care of.  The souls of millions of souls murdered by these regimes cry out as a testimony against the barbarism that follows a world view that is based on materialist assumptions of human nature.

In contrast to this materialist perspective, the Judeo-Christian world view posits that we were created in the image of the sovereign, living God, with the capacity and desire for a relationship with Him and our fellow human beings, and that mankind is distinct from the animal world.  Having tried several other world views, I can attest to the joy, peace, and meaning that comes with a walk with the Lord.

Concept #3:  Science as a convergent ideology.  While this notion is widely assumed to be true, there is compelling evidence to the contrary.  Thomas Kuhn, in this groundbreaking book “The Structure of Scientific Revolution”, builds a strong case that people, including scientists, do not see the world as it is, but as we are.  That is, each of us has a set of assumptions about life – a world view or paradigm – and that what we perceive is impacted by our paradigm.  Taking Hurricane Katrina for example, an environmentalist, an attorney, a politician, a black activist, and a business man would all report different things about Katrina because they have different paradigms, some of which directly conflict with each other.

This applies to science as well.  Kuhn contends that scientists also have predominant paradigms or world views that shape their assumptions, their experimental designs, and their conclusions.  In earlier years, everyone believed the earth was flat.  But as time went on, anomalies began to accumulate, until at some point in time, the paradigm shifted – a new paradigm emerged that better explained the data (that the earth was round).  Thus the notion of paradigm shifts is a very useful and powerful way to understand change.

However, sometimes the paradigm doesn’t shift, even though the bulk of evidence would support such a shift.  Politics and vested interests can all impede the shifting of a paradigm.  One such example would be global warming.  Although there are huge scientific fallacies with global warming, there are certain political and financial interests who have found to be in their interest to keep it going and push for radical legislation because it suits their interest.  Follow the money and the power…

Another example of differing paradigms within science (that portray science as a divergent ideology) is creation science vs. evolution.   As you know, dozens or hundreds of books have been written about this issue.  Here are a few key points:

  • Evolutionists claim that creation is religion, thus dismissing it out of hand.  They do not understand, or simply ignore, that there are over 10,000 scientists (M.S. and Ph.D. in hard science) in the U.S. who embrace creation science.
  • Both creation scientists and evolutionists embrace micro-evolution – the kind of small changes that Charles Darwin observed with finches in his studies.  What creation scientists see no proof for is macro-evolution – that a whale can become a bear for example (which Darwin did not see, but assumed).
  • Darwin acknowledged that the validity of his entire theory rested on the fossil record.  Since then, hundreds of thousands of fossils have been discovered, and the gaps between species are still missing.  This is exactly what creation science expects, and is an arrow through the heart of evolution, which would anticipate a full array of transitional forms.  Some evolutionists are so desperate to explain these gaps that they come up with fancy words to explain fast evolution, or leaps from one species to another.  “Punctuated equilibrium” is an example.
  • Intelligent Design is a new movement within science, made up mostly of evolutionary scientists who are compelled by the data to acknowledge that there is a designer of nature.  A fundamental tenet of evolutionary change is that every change must benefit the organism.  But scientists have found cells that operate like engines or mouse traps – a set of interrelated parts, all of which are necessary for it to operate.  So a piston does not benefit a horseless carriage; only an entire engine.   Many Intelligent Design proponents are not Christians or theists, but their basic honesty at looking at the data compels them to embrace intelligent design.  Just as people out hiking in the Black Hills of South Dakota who happen upon Mount Rushmore would all admit that Mount Rushmore was a sign of intelligence rather than a product of evolution (by chance).

Concept #4:  Religion as a divergent ideology.

I agree that religion – man’s search for god, or to create him in his own image – is divergent.  No disagreement there.  It is particularly interesting to see what various religions say about what happens when we die:

  • Christianity – to heaven or hell,
  • Roman Catholicism – heaven, hell, or purgatory,
  • Islam – to hell or paradise, where 73 virgins await you, to meet your every need
  • Mormons – if you are a devout Mormon man, you will get your own planet (really), and are able to stay there, procreating spirit babies who then become born on earth,
  • Hinduism – you are recycled through reincarnation over and over again, perhaps coming back as a rat or a king, depending on your works, and eventually becoming one with the all, like a drop of water that falls into the ocean,
  • Buddhism – you experience nothingness,
  • Secular humanism (declared by the U.S. Supreme Court to be a religion) – you cease to exist, and become like dust that is blown in the wind.

However, true Christianity, consisting of the remnant that the Bible speaks of who are true Christians, repentant of their sins and led by the Holy Spirit to live lives of peace, joy, and love, is convergent.  It is an amazing experience to encounter individuals of widely divergent cultures, races, age, and gender, and even of other centuries (through their writings) that walk with the Lord.  It is truly convergent, and awesome to behold. 

Often the Lord works through these individuals to impact those around them.  This life in the Spirit is a great adventure, as well as being a life of service and impact.  In Little Rock, a Jewish physician whose specialty was cancer observed that many of his patients died with great peace and even joy.  This was unusual for him and he became very curious.  He subsequently discovered that these individuals were Christians, who were experiencing “the peace that passes understanding” because their lives were given over to the Lord.

Maybe I was looking for God in my search for truth but could not find him.


The Word of God sheds light on this issue:

 “Behold, I stand at the door and knock.  If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.  Revelation 3:20

“But without faith, it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.  Hebrews 11:6

In my experience, anyone who truly seeks the Lord will be found by Him.  But we must seek Him in humility, for pride is a huge barrier to knowing the Lord.

Truth is hard to find but science has found an approach that will and does provide us with the “TRUTH” that we all bet our lives, our fortunes and our future on almost every day.  I don’t think many would bet their lives on what they read in religious literature and put their lives on the line for what they believe in the way they take what science has found to be the truth and trust their lives to it.

COMMENT:  Actually, just the opposite is true.  Millions of Christians have died because of their faith in the early church, through the Roman empire (before Constantine), the Spanish Inquisition by the Catholic Church, the Communist Russian revolution, Nazi Germany, and now by Moslems in several Moslem nations – Sudan, Philippines, and even Iraq.  Their martyrdom has led many others to become Christians, because it is almost impossible for a person to be willing to die for a lie – a falsehood.  These individuals do not die because of what they read in religious literature, but because they have encountered the sovereign, living God, and this experience has transformed their lives here on earth and into eternity.  They know the Lord, and they know that Jesus overcame the ultimate challenge – He overcame death, and He promises eternal life to His followers.

A few years back I read something about the God gene The author did experiments with identical twins and concluded that nature trumps nurture. And that that God or the belief in one is hard wired in us.

COMMENT:  Very interesting.  I had not read of that research.  And yet, that is exactly what we would expect if the sovereign, living God created us in His image, with a capacity and desire to know Him and enjoy a relationship with Him forever. 

On the other hand, evolution would have a hard time explaining how, considering two apes, the one that developed or embraced a belief in a transcendent spiritual being is more likely to survive.  As you know, SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST is the modus operandi of evolution. 

So how would a belief in God better equip one ape to survive than the other?  Actually, we would anticipate that the ape/creature who believes that this earth is all there is would most likely to fight or work the hardest to survive, because once he/she dies, it is all over.  On the face of it, it doesn’t make sense – it lacks face validity.

By the way, Occam’s Razor, a widely accepted principle in scientific circles, states that, given two alternative explanations of some phenomenon, the one that most directly and simply explains the phenomenon is most likely true.  “Hard wired” seems to be a better fit with creation than evolution.

As a psychological defense they began to create gods that they had ceremonies to ask for help or avoid the calamities of their lives. Paleontologists have found in the graves of what they believe were the leaders in their culture that appear to be something they would need in the “after life”. From this evolved the gods and the afterlife. For thousands of generations in almost every culture even in the most primitive this is found. Their gods became more defined and took on characteristics quite different from each other but never the less gods. This I think became built into our genetic makeup we call the “God gene “that the author of the God Gene talks about. As he says God is in our genes.

Witch doctors were born evolved into priests and other positions in the growing communities.  Giant religious organizations dominated some of the cultures. Some of these deities became good loving, nurturing as the Christians present Jesus but others like the Incas, Mayas, Aztecs had gods that drove them to blood thirsty societies. Never the less the God gene persisted and we carry it today.

COMMENT:  You have provided a great example of how paradigms affect our thinking.  The story you told is from an evolutionary perspective, and is speculative, not really scientific (because it cannot be replicated).  An alternative story is that the sovereign, living God created us in His image, and made Himself known to us down through the ages.  The Bible contends that God reveals Himself and His nature through His handiwork (the design of nature), and through special revelation – prophets, Jesus coming, etc.  The Bible also describes evil beings – demons, Satan, etc., which manifest themselves in people and in some cultures.  This fits with the Mayas and Aztecs.

I understand that over 100 cultures have traditions and stories in their history about their ancestors surviving a great flood on some kind of boat.  How would an evolutionist explain this – that there is also a boat gene?  To what evolutionary advantage would a belief that one’s ancestors survived a great flood on a boat provide?  In keeping with Occam’s Razor, a more direct explanation would be that all of these people have a common ancestor (such as Noah), who really did survive a great flood on a boat.  Several explorers have found Noah’s Ark, by the way. 

As I said at 13 I had an epiphany. Something made want to become very religious but when I looked around there was so much that was not true about the organized religions that I could possibly believe that I have had a lifelong quest trying to understand and find TRUTH. I found it in science and the more science I studied the less I could believe about religion.

COMMENT:  Very interesting.  My best friend had a very similar experience at age 13.  She looked at what was going on in church (liberal denomination), and didn’t find anything meaningful.  So she became an atheist at age 13.  She has since studied history, philosophy, and religion, and has become a Christian.  This will sound harsh, but I think it is fair to say that many churches, churchgoers, and pastors are spiritually dead.  They have the form but none of the substance.  I think that is why after 9-11, many people came to church expecting to learn more about the sovereign, living God and His plan for their lives, only to find spiritual deadness.  So the numbers dropped off.

When I left for college, I abandoned my traditional Christian beliefs, and became a subjectivist, then a Marxist, then a classical humanist, and finally a Christian.  I ran across a book by Francis Schaefer called “The God Who is There”, where the author connected reason and faith.  He stated that is reasonable to believe that the God who created the universe created us with the capacity to use reason.  God even invites us to use reason:  “’Come let us reason together’, says the Lord”, Isaiah 1:18.

As discussed earlier, I think that science and Christianity enable us to know different things (different elements of objective truth).  Furthermore, the statement that science is the only way to know truth is a statement of belief or ideology, not truth.  It cannot be proven, and is a statement of philosophy. 

If a person tries to measure air temperature with a yardstick and fails, can they logically conclude that air temperature does not exist?  Because science is unable to identify or measure the spiritual world, can it claim that the latter does not exist?  No.  We cannot prove that something does not exist, because it could exist out there and we are simply unaware of it.  If I tried to prove that there are no Chinese people with square heads, I could go check out all of the Chinese people in China, and then would probably miss some Chinese guy in L.A. with a square head.

However, there are clues to the spiritual world.  In addition to fulfilled prophecy and changed lives, one of the most interesting is a cardiologist named Maurice Rawlings.  He received a lot of tough cases, many of whom died, and then he resuscitated them.  About half of them came back from death, and they did not want to come back.  They had a very pleasant experience – bright lights, love, etc., and did not want to come back.  On the other hand, the other half came back and they were screaming – utterly terrified with the experience that had just encountered, which they described as hell.  Dr. Rawlings discovered that after about three days, those experiencing hell had forgotten their horrific experience.  He concluded that their minds simply could not cope with such horrific experiences, so it suppressed them.

I believe the BIG Bang is the way the universe came into being. There is just too much evidence to support it that even though we cannot go back and produce an experiment to guarantee it’s truth.


Although I have not studied this in depth, I do not understand how an explosion can ever lead to greater order and complexity, when empirical observations lead to the opposite conclusions.  Can you imagine blowing up anything, and it leads to greater order and complexity?  One article I read compares the claims of the big bang to a tornado blowing through a large junkyard and producing a Boeing 747.  This, and the notion that if you wait long enough, something inanimate will come alive (through evolution), is a good reason why people have embraced Christianity.  It is also why the following book gains credence:  “I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist” by Norman Geisler and Frank Turek, available through 

If this is how it all came to be there could be a creator that started it but as some religions believe he created it and left to its own demise.

COMMENT:  What you have described is very common – the Deist (non-Christian) perspective that God started it all, then backed off, or those who create God in their own image. 

I guess this is the closest I can get to god. If this be the case then all the characteristics we give the gods must just man’s characteristic laid upon their deity.


Creating God in our own image is also common:  “If I was God, here is how I would run things…”  The destruction of human life by those political/military/religious/cult leaders who have presumed to be gods is well documented. 

I agree with you that is the closest you can get to God (on this earth) as long as you hold to the non-scientific assumption that science is the only way to know truth and that God and the spiritual world does not exist because science cannot measure it.  Incidentally, what does science tell us about what happens when we die?  What LAWS does it provide to guide us on this earth to prepare us for what comes next?

In political discussions of the role of the Vice President, commentators commonly state that whoever is chosen as V.P. is important because they are just “one heartbeat away from the Presidency”.  In like manner, the Christian perspective is that you and I are just one heartbeat away from God – from coming face to face with our maker, and being accountable for our lives, and our belief systems.  We will meet Him; the only questions are how soon, and on what conditions – as a member of the body of Christ who is welcomed home to heaven, or as one who faces eternity separated from God in a nasty place called hell.  Are you willing to bet your life – your eternal life and destination on the non- scientific assumption that the spirit world does not exist because science cannot measure it?  Do you teach your children and loved ones the same thing, thus betting their eternal lives and destination on the same non-scientific claim?

Finally, a friend of mine described how long eternity is – the butterfly and Pluto story.  You know how a butterfly does not fly in a straight line – it just flits around, eventually getting to where it is going.  If a butterfly took a grain of sand and flew to Pluto and back, and they did that over and over until all of the grains of sand on earth were on Pluto, and then brought them all back, that is how long eternity is.  Sure impressed me.

I apologize for the length and heaviness of this response.  If you are interested, we can pursue this further, or perhaps meet for coffee or lunch.

Best regards,